Faith Steed Howarth

[Subject of Wayne comes up]

So, of course, after that, I tried never to let it, you know, because if it was God's will that he should stay, and I pled with Him. I said, "Give us just a little more time and I will try with all my heart to get everyone of my children back to you." That's what worries me now. [Dave - "But you've tried, that's the point.] "Uh huh." [Dave - "You have tried."J "What about Wayne?" [Dave "There's a difference, he still has his free agency."] "Yeah."[Dave - "He does. I think Father Lehi must have worried a bit too, but there wasn't much he could do about it."] But, underneath he's such a good person. [Dave “Sure he is. He just can't see it."] Maybe he'll just be punished. I don't know. [Dave - "Hard to tell."] We can't tell. We don't know. But it has made me very, very conscious of it and 1 really tried, you know, and yet, we never talked about it, see. I didn't dare, as I say, but he knew I loved him. He knew I loved him.

[An incident with Wayne that no one seems to know about ... Must have been when he entered the Army in WWII]

When I went up to see Wayne, they wouldn't let me touch him. Not even sit by him. They put me on this side of a much bigger room than this with a man sitting right across there and him sitting way over there. He could talk to me, and could talk that was it. just 'talk. I couldn't even give him a goodbye hug or kiss or anything. I had come all the way up there with a sick baby to comfort him, you know, and to be with him. The next thing I know -- even hear from him -- he's in New York City. He told me over 'the telephone, -”I'm leaving." Then it was two and one-half months before we even knew if he -got over the ocean all right. That's an awful strain on anybody - any parent.

Then we learned he was there safely. He was in China. He was there for quite a little while. We'd send him things there. Then he went to India. But, he never told me anything about it and neither did they, of course. So, that was the war and that's all - they were just nothing.